Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

04/10/2007 04:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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*+ HB 207 STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 215 TASK FORCE RE: COUNCIL ON DOM. VIOL. TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 215(HES) Out of Committee
*+ HB 213 CRIMES AT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 213(HES) Out of Committee
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HB 213-CRIMES :  DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTERS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:27:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 213, "An Act  relating to an aggravating factor at                                                               
sentencing  for   crimes  committed   at  certain   shelters  and                                                               
facilities."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:27:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ANDREA DOLL,  Alaska State Legislature, introduced                                                               
HB 213, as prime sponsor.   She said the bill addresses safety at                                                               
shelters by allowing stiffer sentences.   She related an incident                                                               
that happened  at the  AWARE shelter  in Juneau  which instigated                                                               
the creation of  the proposed legislation.  She  noted that April                                                               
is [Sexual Assault Awareness] month.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:32:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  asked for examples of  how the sentencing                                                               
would change  under HB 213.   She also asked for  a definition of                                                               
the phrase [on page 1, line  6]:  "facility providing services to                                                               
victims of domestic violence or sexual assault."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
5:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL said a "facility  providing services" means a                                                               
place offering  refuge, counseling,  classes, and a  wide variety                                                               
of services.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER asked  if the bill would apply  to a next-                                                               
door  neighbor  giving  shelter  to   a  battered  woman  in  the                                                               
neighborhood.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL said that is a good question.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:34:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICK SVOBODNY,  Deputy Attorney General, Department  of Law, said                                                               
aggravating  factors related  to the  bill are  tried to  a jury;                                                               
therefore, the  jury determines  the definition  of a  shelter or                                                               
facility that  provides services for domestic  violence or sexual                                                               
assault  victims.   Notwithstanding  that, Mr.  Svobodny said  he                                                               
thinks  it  is  the  intent  of the  sponsor  and  would  be  the                                                               
interpretation of anyone  who reads the bill  that "we're talking                                                               
about the  type of  shelters that exist  throughout the  state or                                                               
are funded by [CDVSA]."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:36:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SVOBODNY,  in  response   to  Representative  Gardner,  said                                                               
aggravating factors  allow a  judge to increase  the length  of a                                                               
sentence from  the length  that has  been deemed  appropriate for                                                               
any particular case.  He offered examples.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:37:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  the sponsor  if the  aforementioned                                                               
facility refers to a facility providing residential services.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL replied yes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  Representative  Doll  if she  would                                                               
object  to  adding the  language  "residential"  in order  to  be                                                               
clear.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  told Representative Seaton  that doing                                                               
so would eliminate rape crisis  centers such as Standing Together                                                               
Against Rape (STAR) in Anchorage.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  explained that he is  seeking a definition                                                               
of what would and would not be covered.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:40:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER stated  her concern  that using  the term                                                               
"residential" includes a HUD home.   She suggested using the term                                                               
"secure".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:41:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  said women  are often  in the  most danger                                                               
just when they  think the danger is over, and  she indicated that                                                               
a broad [term] is needed in the language.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:42:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY  LUCKHAUPT,   Attorney,  Legislative  Legal   and  Research                                                               
Services,   Legislative  Affairs   Agency,   explained  that   he                                                               
deliberately used broad language when  drafting the bill in order                                                               
to  cover those  facilities that  don't meet  all specifications.                                                               
He  said a  prosecutor would  have to  convince a  jury that  the                                                               
facility  in question  provides services  to victims  of domestic                                                               
violence  and  sexual assault.    In  response to  Representative                                                               
Gardner's  aforementioned  example  of  a  victim  fleeing  to  a                                                               
neighbor's house,  while the neighbor may  be providing temporary                                                               
shelter, he/she is not providing services.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:44:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  said the bill adds  aggravating factors and                                                               
he  does  not  think  it  is  necessary  to  define  where  those                                                               
aggravating  factors occur.    He said  the  discretion is  being                                                               
given to the court system and  the language in the bill should be                                                               
left  vague.   In conclusion,  he stated  that he  is comfortable                                                               
with the language as it is.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
5:45:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  said in  remote and  rural communities                                                               
there may  be safe homes that  do not receive funding  from CDVSA                                                               
or  even have  paid staff.   She  said she  shares Representative                                                               
Seaton's   concern,  but   also   appreciates   the  remarks   of                                                               
Representative Roses.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:47:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL,  in response to Representative  Cissna, said                                                               
the idea of  the bill is to bring attention  to protecting women;                                                               
it will  not solve the  entire problem but provides  a beginning.                                                               
She  related  a  story  about   a  woman  recently  shot  at  the                                                               
University of Washington.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:49:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON noted that men are also victims.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:49:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON commented that  the legislature's job is to                                                               
write the  law as it  wants it enforced  and the language  of the                                                               
bill  is  vague.    He  said   he  would  not  like  to  see  one                                                               
circumstance  treated  in  one  manner  in one  court  and  in  a                                                               
different manner in another court.   He expressed his support for                                                               
the intention of the bill, but  said he would like to clarify its                                                               
intent through its  language.  He admitted that he  does not know                                                               
how  to  do  that,  but suggested  perhaps  the  House  Judiciary                                                               
Standing  Committee  would have  a  solution.   He  stated,  "I'm                                                               
uncomfortable  when I  cannot read  the  bill and  then tell  you                                                               
where it is  that the aggravator will apply, and  that's ... just                                                               
my concern."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SVOBODNY said this issue is  a policy call for the committee.                                                               
He suggested that  on page 1, line 6, the  language could specify                                                               
that the facility be one "that operates to provide services".                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:52:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FAIRCLOUGH  suggested  that  the  language  read,                                                               
"recognized  shelter or  facility".    Regarding the  aggravating                                                               
factor at sentencing, she stated  that rapists in Anchorage still                                                               
rape, but are less likely to carry  a knife or gun - actions that                                                               
would aggravate  the assault -  because they know that  would add                                                               
time  to their  sentence.   The bill  would be  a deterrent,  she                                                               
said.    She  stated,  "It's  sad  to  say  that  some  of  these                                                               
individuals do have a brain and  they choose to behave like this,                                                               
but it is learned behavior.   And they can learn that aggravation                                                               
causes additional consequence."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:54:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER  said  she would  support  Representative                                                               
Fairclough's idea to  add "recognized", because a safe  home in a                                                               
rural area might not necessarily be "a place that operates."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
5:54:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH moved to  adopt Conceptual Amendment 1,                                                               
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     On page 1, line 5:                                                                                                         
          Between "premises of a" and "shelter"                                                                                 
          Insert "recognized"                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:55:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  moved to report  HB 213, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying  fiscal  notes.   There  being  no  objection,  CSHB
213(HES)  was  reported  from the  House  Health,  Education  and                                                               
Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                             

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